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January 06, 2006

'Credit Card Debts Aren't Inherited'

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Michelle Singletary, in her "The Color of Money" column in the December 29 Washington Post Business section, answered a question from a reader who wondered whether your credit card debt is passed on in the event of your death.

Long story short: no.

Which completely surprised me.

I'd always thought that your debts, no matter how incurred, had to be paid off if it was at all possible.

Not so, turns out.

Here's the Washington Post piece.

    Credit Card Debts Aren't Inherited

    A Maryland woman wanted to know if a single woman (a mother) dies while she still has a significant amount of unsecured credit card debt, what happens to that debt.

    She has no assets, and her two children will inherit nothing.

    I suspect that what the reader really wanted to know is whether the children will inherit her credit card debt.

    The answer is no, unless the children are 18 or older and co-signed for the debt.

    In that case, they would be responsible.

    However, if they are minors and no assets are available to sell or disburse to creditors, the children can't be held responsible for any of their mother's debts.

    That also goes for the woman's other relatives.

    You are not responsible for paying off someone else's debts when the person dies unless you have agreed to be a co-signer for the credit.

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Now, I'm no lawyer but neither is Michelle Singletary.

After I reread her piece what I took away from it was that if you happen to have an estate with significant assets, a credit card company can indeed swoop in and take the total balance due even if you had no co–signer.

Because in that case they'd be pulling the funds out of the estate as a whole, not extracting them from an individual.

Now, I know that there are lawyers reading this: I've had email correspondence with at least four or five, and using my rule of a hundred (when one person does something that requires any effort, be sure that a hundred more would do it but can't be bothered; I usually apply this reasoning to complaints but I suspect it has much wider application), there must be a lot more silent legal eagles out there.

So, counselors — what gives?

Will someone who knows the law be so kind as to fill me in, either by commenting or emailing me direct?

No, I have no plans to crump anytime soon but I find the idea of debt forgiveness of any sort in the American system somewhat surprising.

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Comments

Since some of you have mentioned wills, I just wanted to say that because the probate process is so complicated and can take so long, it is always best setting up a "living revocable trust" as opposed to a will. If you want to avoid your kids some pain and do them a favor, then that's the route to go... Suze Orman talks about this in her book and show...

Thanks to everyone for the comments on debt.. Perhaps before I die I'll use my credit card to buy tons of gifts for everyone to enjoy and let the banks pay for a change... :+)

Posted by: Katherine | Jan 6, 2006 8:15:42 PM

I work in the estate division of a Probate Court. I can't give legal advice, but I can tell you what we do procedurally here.

If any type of creditor makes a claim against an estate, the Personal Representative (executor) has 3 options. They may pay the claim in full. They can try to compromise with the creditor for a lower amount. Or they can disallow the claim, which basically means saying they are not going to pay it. There isn't any "swooping" in. It's a process that can take from 8 months to 1 year (sometimes longer). If the claim is disallowed, the creditor is given a waiting period in which they may call a hearing to contest the situation, or they may not bother with it.

That's essentially the process :-).
Rachel

Posted by: rachel | Jan 6, 2006 2:32:33 PM

It's not just credit cards. Debts can't be inherited. Period.

Posted by: Waldo Jaquith | Jan 6, 2006 12:52:00 PM

Joe, if a gang of lawyers email you directly regarding this matter, would you share the info with the peanut gallery here? I would love to hear the answer(s).

My mother's will appointed me administrator of her estate, and as I understood it, my very first duty was to pay all of her outstanding debts out of her estate, and what was left is what we inherited, as specified in her will. (Since my mother was always a saver, never a spender, there was no debt. Bless her.) But if there had been humongous credit card charges, and the estate didn't cover it, yeah, then what? I never needed to find out.

Regarding wills, I did learn this much. You can die intestate and leave a big mess, and you can die with a will and still leave a big mess. You can make the whole process pretty easy for your heirs or you can turn it into an enormous pain in the ass for them, depending on the wording of your will. (Again, bless my mother.)

Posted by: Flutist | Jan 6, 2006 12:35:12 PM

I don't think it's debt 'forgiveness' so much as the 'can't get blood from a turnip' principle. When the estate is worth zero, the debt cannot be repaid and must be written off as bad debt.

I suspect that represents a tiny fraction of the credit card companies' bad debt, compared to defaults, otherwise we'd have seen the abomination of a bankruptcy bill congress passed last year include a clause making debt heritable.

Posted by: shadowfax | Jan 6, 2006 12:04:26 PM

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